About Us

About the Hosts…

Kathy and Cathy grew up in Southern California and have been friends most of their lives. Cathy spent many afternoons after school at Kathy’s house (tuna fish sandwiches on sourdough were her favorite after school snack while Kathy preferred peanut butter on sourdough toast) and they bonded over their love of true crime (and Shark Week!).

They have been going on family vacations together for more than 20 years, and it was during their 2020 trip to what they call “the best lake” that, while hanging out at their cove with adult beverages and floating on their “Relaxation Station,” Cathy and Kathy decided to join the world of true crime podcasting. 

They’re two lifelong friends who have normal jobs and look like normal people, but underneath their ordinary exteriors lurk true crime fanatics who love diving deep into all of the details and retelling the stories with their own blend of sarcasm and humor to anyone who’ll listen.